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KUOYAO
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« on: April 17, 2008, 05:39:50 pm »

Hi all,

I just got XXHighEnd yesterday.  Very good SQ.  Am encountering a few problems though.  First problem, files with music longer than 6 minutes won't play.  The duration cursor will move, but no sound.  It is something to do with improper activation, because other features like oversampling and Q-Control are inaccessible?

I'm using XXHighEnd 0.9u-14a --> RME AES-32 Sound Card

Pls help, thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2008, 09:21:37 pm »

Hi,

This looks like you are using Engine#1, and with the longer than 6 minutes tracks this will turn into Engine#2 (in red !) automatically.
Is this right ?

If so ... Engine#2 (and Engine#3 btw) requires that your sound device is set as the Primary Sound Device.

Does that help you ?

Peter
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XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2008, 05:06:52 am »

Hi Peter,

Thanks for your prompt reply.  Yes, I am using engine one and my soundcard is not set as primary driver.  The reason my soundcard is not the primary driver is that I get crackles when working with other applications in the background even though I’ve disabled all sound options.  Can XXHighEnd be configured to continue using Engine #1 without setting my sound card as primary driver?  I’m still using XP.

BTW: Last night I compared XXHighEnd extensively with other players that output via ASIO and I am very impressed with XX’s SQ. 
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2008, 09:22:13 am »

Hi KUOYAO,

Thank you for your nice words. But might you be able to get Vista ... that is way better for SQ (by means of Engine#3).

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The reason my soundcard is not the primary driver is that I get crackles when working with other applications in the background even though I’ve disabled all sound options.

This is interesting by itself. I never heard of this so far, and should not be so of course.
On another note I would say that when all other sounds and stuff are disabled, there would no other device be left to select, and the device you want to use for playback is the only one, hence is primary. I must honestly say though, that I forgot a bit how things in XP work.
Anyway, are you sure you actually *disabled* all other sound devices ?

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Can XXHighEnd be configured to continue using Engine #1 without setting my sound card as primary driver?  I’m still using XP.

Sadly, no. The way Engine#1 is working does not allow files larger than 64MB to be played. This is an XP limitation.
This is why Engine#2 was created, but Engine#2 has the limitation of not being able to change the sound device.
(and for others : Engine#3 does allow to change the sound device, but I just did not make this yet since this is somehwat harder to do in the environment concerned).

On the crackles ... I don't know which soundcard you use (but please tell me), and possibly you can get the latest drivers and then it works better ?

IIRC nobody ever reported crackles with XP (hence Engine#1 or #2), although by now nearly everybody is on Vista. But anyway, this should theoretically tell this is something special in your system. Maybe you can think of something "special" yourself ?

Peter
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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2008, 10:06:47 am »

Hi Peter,

I'm using the RME AES-32 Soundcard and digital out through AES.  My drivers/flash are all up-to-date.  The crackes when moving through applications are new to this computer (my old one using same card did not have this problem) as I sort of gave-up debugging because I now use ASIO and Foobar.

After going though the messages in this board, I've concluded that I better upgrade to Vista.  Just that it makes me nauseaus to have to pay the Microsoflt Tax every few years.
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