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Author Topic: 0.9y-1d ... wow!  (Read 37068 times)
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PeterSt
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« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2009, 02:51:26 pm »

Hi Telstar,

Although I will agree with you, maybe it is not a nice thing to blame things on that, "just like that". So, on behalf of you too, let me try to correct this (I know you will agree).

In the before post I started blabbering about my own Infinity R90's ribbon tweeter and mid-high, but scratched that just because of the same reason : it should not be the culprit per definition.
At first I extended my (now scratched) post by mentioning the tweaks I applied in the opposite direction : mounting lamp hoods to make the sound more directional, and avoid room modes (in the high frequencies). It really worked.
I again went further in that post, and referred to my own boosted highs (on my current horn speakers, 16dB towards 20KHz via the XOvers) and tried to explain that if enything, I would hear "wrong highs".

But look what I described earlier today in the DAC topic :

If I had to describe the sound as how it is now, I would say

- Aggressive;
- Very good separation of individual elements like a plunk on a nylon string;
- Something like the latter being very forward and straight (no vibrato no flanger) indicating few jitter;
- The sense of wanting to jump along. It is "performing".

The "aggressive" is a dangerous one, because it is quite the opposite of "dead bird" and comes along with "not laid back". You could almost say "less suitable for background music". Dynamics are fairly high (but not too much this time).

... and I should at least recognize that there's some "aggresiveness" in the sound which may not have been there before.
But how can I know if something as drastic has changed to the DAC (direct Firewire) while at the same time I'm changing the software ?

In all honesty this only tells me not to trust my own ears, which implies I must trust yours out there. This means I trust yours, but also Arvind's, and LydMekk for that matter, although he is hopelessly lost in never giving in to Unattended. oops Only kidding of course, but please read the truth in between the lines.

All summarized, I try to be in the leage of not blaming someone's system as long as it can be the software. As said earlier, until proven otherwise, and not the other way around.
Besides that, with all the different systems everybody has, it NEVER has been a subject. Instead, it ALWAYS has been the software. No matter how it's done and no matter how impossible it seems to be.

I can only hope this is a good attitude, and when it comes down to me having messed up ... so be it. secret

Peter
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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2009, 03:26:06 pm »

Hi Peter,

Waiting for the 0.9y-3 version.

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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2009, 03:28:15 am »

lol...thx, Peter!  Happy

Nah, not lost in attended, doing un-attended for maximum involved listening. But some listenening are happening together with other activites on the computer and in real life and then the un-attended session creates dropouts, noise etc. the longer it has played. The possibility to stop services etc. further aggravates Vista and the possibilities to run other software simultaneously and creates dropouts with error reports from Vista etc.

Selecting prosessor schemes and thread prios further aggraves these error conditions and therefore have not been enabled in my system.

So yeah, sometimes im doing playback in attended - shoot me.  Wink
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