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« on: June 25, 2007, 11:42:15 pm »

Hi Peter

Until now, with engine #3 on, I could only listen to 1 track.
After that, an error-mesage showed-up to tell me engine #3 stopped.

With my laptop not connected to anything I played some tracks with double option checked.
To my surprise there was no stop at the end of the track, The next track just started playing.
With the machine back to the system I can not play with double options checked. I get a mesage that the USB device (DDDAC1543) can not handle the sample-rate. Just out of curiousity I checked the delay option. That also works fine. with the delay set to 1 there are no stops between the tracks. I don't know why this is but will enjoy playing at least a few tracks before the demo version quits.

Will undemo as soon as I installed Vista on the computer I dedicated to music in stead ofusing my MacBook

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Werner

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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 03:43:15 am »


Hi werner,

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Until now, with engine #3 on, I could only listen to 1 track.
After that, an error-mesage showed-up to tell me engine #3 stopped.

What is the exact meassage ?
(and you do use 0.9a, do you ?)

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With the machine back to the system I can not play with double options checked. I get a mesage that the USB device (DDDAC1543) can
not handle the sample-rate.

Which would be true ... yes

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with the delay set to 1 there are no stops between the tracks. I don't know why this is


Me neither ... But, there shouldn't be stops between the tracks anymore (not with 0.9a).
So far I can't understand this. dntknw (but I hope the exact error message is going to help !).

Regards,
Peter



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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 10:48:14 pm »

Hi Peter,

my version of 9a still stops after each track with engine#3.
It must be version 9a as there is an undemo button !
The error message I get is from Microsoft Windows:
'"XX highEnd engine#3 werkt niet meer er wordt naar een oplossing voor het probleem gezocht."
after a short while followed by this one:
"wilt u meer info over het probleem verzenden ?"
Also the music keeps hanging, as if a CD in a 'normal' player keeps repeating a very short part because of a scratch.
As I mentionend, putting the delay to 1 solves all the problems
I use the DDDAC1543 with USB interconnect by te way, no SPDIF

regards
Werner


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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2007, 07:00:16 pm »

Werner,

I didn't look into this yet, but this slipped to my mind :

I think because of the phenomenon "jack sensing" I discovered (already many months ago) that if you'd switch off the power amps (or one of them), this might influence the DAC, and because it talks to the software (in Vista), the software is triggered to shut off (like it won't run with the DAC out of power -> try it). BUT : where I should capture such a situation, I completely forgot about it. Now :

Suppose ... just suppose your DAC, by whatever means, responses to an end of track situation the wrong way (or the MS Class USB drivers you'd be using don't respond to that appropriately) ... it would be a perfect reason for the player to respond back with a "does not work anymore" (translation from dutch from what you described).

It's a bit of a long shot, and I wouldn't know how you could deal with this in discovering whether this can be the culprit.
What *I* can do, is trap this situation, and if from then on you'd get "my" error message, it should be in the direction.

Currently I've some other priorities though, but I sure won't forget it ! evil

Thanks for your patience.
Peter
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XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2007, 08:54:12 pm »

Hi Peter,

Thanks for your reply. But don't pay to much attention to it.
By putting the delay to 1 second I don't notice the problem, and,
I'll try to change my 'music-computer' to play vista this weekend (new motherboard). Maybe the 'problem' disapears.
I posted the solutions more for you to see what is happening 'in the field' than to get ' the problem' solved.
I'll keep you posted !

regards
Werner

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2007, 02:48:23 am »

How are you doing on this Werner ?

It might be good to follow this topic just as well : XXHighEnd version 0.9d stops after one track + errors
Peter
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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2007, 09:19:19 am »

He Peter,

I'm doing fine on this  Grin
I built my new computer for Vista this weekend so I can listen again
to my music-computer and not to the MacBook.
I did some listening and there were no stops anymore, exept for XXHighEnd stopping
To prevent that i did the undemo, so now there are no problems anymore.
I think using Vista on the MacBook must have something to do with it
Getting myself away from the music-system seems the next thing to solve !!
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