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« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2010, 03:06:36 pm »

Actually I like XMPLay better than Foobar if we talk about WASAPI path. But XX beats both. XMPlay and Foobar are more sharp and colder than XX therefore I myself consider XX as better. Also XX has better pronounced bass, I would say it is more intelligent than XM's or Foobar's.

In my opinion the XXHIGHEND almost sounds high end, all the other software-players don`t !

I totally agree with the fact, that the bass is much better pronounced and the high frequencies are so much smoother, though still very detailed and airy !

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« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2010, 03:12:41 pm »

You don't have to open files through cmp. Click "explore", install JRiver Media CEnter and set for external software -> cPlay. This is the best combo in terms of SQ and convenience, period.
Hi Marcin Happy, we have been spoken already. How does the this work in practise though - is it fairly seamless or does it jump back & forth between JRiver & Cplay i.e can cplay run in the background & play the files while JRiver remains as the GUI? I've tried setting different external players in MP3Toys (my favoured GUI) but this is the way it operates!

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I suggest you run DPC Latency checker at your machines and write it here. Mine shows constant 2-3 us.
On my stock laptop, I get something like 230us normally but a whopping 21,000 when WAN is active unhappy
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« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2010, 08:54:00 pm »

Well now IŽve really done it  unhappy

Infected my own thread  Happy

I have installed WIN 7 Ultimate on my CPU instead of XP PRO and now XXhighend and M2TECH works a lot better no more sudden blue screens og reboots ! Now everything that is available in the demoversion seems
to work flawlessly NICE  good

What would be the ultimate settings for the Engine3 / Win7 / M2TECH ??????
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« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2010, 09:21:30 pm »

Very nice, gonz, I want to install Win 7 but don't have the external disk space to backup my data before install unhappy
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« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2010, 11:44:45 pm »

Hey gonz,

How about VISTA? Have you tried it there?

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« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2010, 02:27:12 am »

Hey gonz,

How about VISTA? Have you tried it there?

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Nope VISTA is completely banned on my CPU  wacko
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« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2010, 10:39:01 pm »

Hey Gonz, any chance you've gotten into special mode with Hiface and 9y-6 (if its even possible)? Just wondering how it sounds.
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« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2010, 11:25:37 pm »

Hey Gonz, any chance you've gotten into special mode with Hiface and 9y-6 (if its even possible)? Just wondering how it sounds.

I don`t know if the special mode works in the demo version  Sad But you`d better ask Peter !
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« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2010, 09:46:57 am »

The special mode works on engine 4, but not on engine 3 on my CPU !!
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« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2010, 10:10:48 am »

Special Mode is for Engine#4 only. The demo version *does* indeed matter; It will work, but because you lack the Core Appointment stuff you won't be able to tune it right (or not optimally the least).

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« Reply #55 on: February 22, 2010, 10:36:01 am »

Special Mode is for Engine#4 only. The demo version *does* indeed matter; It will work, but because you lack the Core Appointment stuff you won't be able to tune it right (or not optimally the least).

Peter

Thanks for the info  Wink

Obviously there`s a difference  between the demo and the undemo , this is as it should be ! Happy

Peter what is your opinion about the sound quality using the M2TECH versus a firewire solution ??
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« Reply #56 on: February 22, 2010, 10:40:37 am »

Special Mode is for Engine#4 only. The demo version *does* indeed matter; It will work, but because you lack the Core Appointment stuff you won't be able to tune it right (or not optimally the least).

Peter

Does this mean that the special mode will not work with the M2TECH ??
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« Reply #57 on: February 22, 2010, 10:44:31 am »

Huh ? What makes you think this ?

Anyway, it works perfectly with the M2Tech/HiFace (I tried it).
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XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #58 on: February 22, 2010, 10:52:17 am »

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Peter what is your opinion about the sound quality using the M2TECH versus a firewire solution ??

From what I have heard of it ... better. I used it to feed my Fireface800 via SPDIF, and I was quite surprised how good that sounded. Normally the Fireface is fed by Firewire, and I've always found that sounds "so-so".

Notice that I have no real means of comparing to what I'm used to, because my own Phasure NOS1 uses a "better" connection secret, meaning that feeding it with SPDIF would incur for two additional conversions compared to what I'm used to. That never is good.

Nobody buying a HiFace will be sorry I think. But of course you first must have a need for it.
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XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #59 on: February 22, 2010, 11:36:10 am »

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Peter what is your opinion about the sound quality using the M2TECH versus a firewire solution ??

From what I have heard of it ... better. I used it to feed my Fireface800 via SPDIF, and I was quite surprised how good that sounded. Normally the Fireface is fed by Firewire, and I've always found that sounds "so-so".

Notice that I have no real means of comparing to what I'm used to, because my own Phasure NOS1 uses a "better" connection secret, meaning that feeding it with SPDIF would incur for two additional conversions compared to what I'm used to. That never is good.

Nobody buying a HiFace will be sorry I think. But of course you first must have a need for it.
Peter

Ok IŽll be doing some testing the next couple of weeks ,comparing the M2TECH versus Firewire using a RME Fireface 400 as DAC !!

Which engine should I use with the M2TECH for best sound quality ??
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