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glynnw
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« on: July 17, 2010, 11:20:16 pm »

In the 3 weeks I have had the Juli@ soundcard, it has only worked 2 times.  Every other time (about 40-50 attempts) I get a blue screen of death whenever I turn the computer on after installing the card.  In the 2 times it worked, I was able to use 24/176 through the SPDIF output and all worked properly, but when I turn the PC off I get the blue screen the next 10 times I turn it on, at which point I yell a lot and remove the card and then the PC works fine.  I don't know enough to diagnose the problem, so Monday I am turning it over to a local repair shop who assures me he can get it to run (although he admits to having very little expeience with sound cards).  The ESI site forum has several instances of others having a simlar problem.  Anyone here have any suggestions before I pay someone to work on it?
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 07:03:47 am »

Hey Glynn,

Sorry to hear about your nasty problem, because it seems something with so few to do and taking so much time to test (reboots, removing the card again, etc.).

Assuming you use V1.07 for the driver (which will be the latest, unless there is a recent new one), I would try 1.21 (which is way older, depsite the higher number !). There's also another one which works for W7 and what we do with it, and Roy mentioned it somwhere (in that thread where I anounced that the Juli@ can do Kernel Streaming allright : So, a Juli@ doesn't dig KS, right ?).

Next think about some possible problem with the buffer size, and that it may run on some size which is not the default (IIRC the default is 128), BUT that it won't store your change, and thus at a reboot falls back to that size at which it won't reboot at all. A bit vague maybe, and theoretically even impossible as the cause if you read well what I wrote, but still a kind of explanation for "it has worked a few times". On this latter, think about how it will  work the very first time, where at booting it can't do anything because it is not known. This "not known situation" however, only exists when the active driver has been removed, and in the thread I referred to is mentioned by me how to do that. So, next you can boot with the Juli@ in there, and now you can appoint your (own) driver (see description in that thread again), and ... this already may do tricks because possibly you didn't do it that way before.
If this doesn't help by itself, set the Buffer Size to e.g. 1024, and check a couple of times whether it's still in there. If yes, reboot (yeah, you will be 30 minutes further already, I know). If this helps, and you can determined it is the buffer size by setting it back to 128 and reboot (and then it dies again), never set it to 128 anymore.

Btw, the story about the buffer size is way too long, looking at the chance it is the cause. It is just a very wild guess.

Good luck now,
Peter
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XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
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W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2010, 01:34:27 am »

It looks like my problem is solved, at least for now.  Since I had plans to take it all to a repair place tomorrow, I decided I could take a few chances and delete some things.  Got rid of XXHighEnd, XMPlay, dbPoweramp and then looked at almost every file, removing things that looked out of place.  Then shut it down, reinstalled Juli@ sound card, fired it up and it worked.  Downloaded XXHighEnd and fired it up and it works flawlessly.  So finally I can proceed with what I started almost a month ago - comparing the Wavelength Brick DAC (USB 24/96) with a Benchmark DAC1 (SPDIF 24/192).  Just think about how much money I am spending because of you Peter  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2010, 09:33:23 am »

Haha, well, I can only hope for you it keeps on working, because I don't see much reason in how your removal of files etc. can be related. So it could be coincidence, like it happened a few times before ...
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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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