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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2015, 02:32:35 pm »

Ah... Bert said it Happy My idea was "Son of Nos" but I like what Bert think of Happy

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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2015, 02:58:11 pm »

Hmm... why does everyone think it's going to be a non-oversampling DAC? I mean, I just can't see how Peter could improve on a NOS1a B75 in this respect. Nah, I wouldn't be surprised if the new 'mother of all DACs' uses a different DAC chip to the BB1704U-K.

I've always loved the Greek symbol 'Σ' - i.e. Sigma. In mathematics this is the summation operator of course. The new DAC would be the summation of everything Peter has learned in his long audio journey. So for me, the 'Phasure Σ' would be an apt name. We could have a beautiful Σ inscribed on the DAC in silver or gold, just like the 'α' on the NOS1a.

Mine isn't the most original idea here though... some of the others really are great.

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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2015, 03:05:49 pm »

My hunch would be some kind of discrete delta sigma DAC.
Makes a lot of sense to go that route.

So for that reason, Phasure Sigma would make a lot of sense as a name.

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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2015, 03:28:00 pm »

Hi,

I would propose a name which has dynamic/action such as ** edit "Midas Touch". Thought I'm probably far from the ideal name, some thing that means conversion or change would be suitable.

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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2015, 04:47:26 pm »

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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2015, 04:52:00 pm »

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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2015, 05:58:25 pm »

- Phasure Open Project (O-P)

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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2015, 06:11:20 pm »

NOX1    an x always looks good.
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2015, 07:41:33 pm »

My hunch would be some kind of discrete delta sigma DAC.
Makes a lot of sense to go that route.
So for that reason, Phasure Sigma would make a lot of sense as a name.
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Yes, Phasure Sigma or NOS Sigma or NOSigma

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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2015, 08:32:17 pm »

Hmm... why does everyone think it's going to be a non-oversampling DAC? I mean, I just can't see how Peter could improve on a NOS1a B75 in this respect. Nah, I wouldn't be surprised if the new 'mother of all DACs' uses a different DAC chip to the BB1704U-K.

I've always loved the Greek symbol 'Σ' - i.e. Sigma. In mathematics this is the summation operator of course. The new DAC would be the summation of everything Peter has learned in his long audio journey. So for me, the 'Phasure Σ' would be an apt name. We could have a beautiful Σ inscribed on the DAC in silver or gold, just like the 'α' on the NOS1a.

Mine isn't the most original idea here though... some of the others really are great.

Mani.

Delta BlueΣ ?   Wink
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« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2015, 12:26:49 am »

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« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2015, 10:10:40 am »

Hey ...

I never imagined that you guys could come up with such ideas, all so good. But merely, how they inspire for thinking in certain directions.
Of course, at this moment it is a kind of guessing for you so I need to explain a bit more. Thus as promised I gathered a bit of material. Coming up in 30 ...

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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2015, 10:51:05 am »

Looking at the date of today I think NPO would be the appropriate name for the replacement of NOS.
(sorry only for the Dutch this one....)
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« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2015, 10:52:27 am »

or NPU , Non Plus Ultra...
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« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2015, 11:02:35 am »

I am quite blush2blush1blush2 by all your good ideas, the one even more smart than the other !

Bbbbut ... a best sounding DAC is a not sounding DAC, right ?


Well, our son Paul may enter the company (or already has) because during 2013 Christmas holidays he worked on some secret project somewhere upstairs for many hours per day and for 4-5 days.

NOS∞SON

Therefore this is a seriously good name.

I could hear he was making something from Lego by means of the ever "search sounds" in the many boxes with the bricks. On and on and on.
I couldn't imagine what the secret could be unless it would be a super large space ship or something and the surprise could be all the many details. Theoretically such a thing would be possible because of the tens of thousands of Lego bricks and such he has out there.

Then finally he was finished and uncovered his creation ...








































































High Resolution link NOS1 Lego

Don't ask me what an ever and always gaming guy puts to his head to even start thinking about this but the surprise was huge. No big space ship at all, just a NOS1 ...

High Resolution link NOS1 Lego

High Resolution link NOS1 Lego

The real surprise was found in the inside.

High Resolution link NOS1 Lego

For fun you can open your NOS1's and see that actually everything is there, up to the capacitors and other smaller parts. So what Paul had done was stealing a new NOS1, open it and start to copy it in Lego. Well, I opened my father's gear for whatever reason, by not for such a thing. swoon

At the top right there's the two transformers on top of each other (one bigger than the other) and the power inlet and power switch. Bottom right is the main power supply with all the capacitors and the heatsinks and all in their real position.
At the very bottom there's the display including the chips on that PCB at the back of thedisplay. To the left of that you see the 5 switches.

In the middle section there's the DAC and output stage on top of it and here too the parts/chips on the boards are just there. Output terminals are in the back.

Top left there's the two USB inputs and under that the USB interface. Under that we see the power supply for that section, including a great real looking heatsink, a transistor in its middle and the large input capacitor in the top right. Of course 4 rectifyer diodes show.

So yes, I envisioned infinite search for parts which could resemble whatever was seen in the real thing.


And all in the 1:1 scale of course.



So I promised Paul that I would make a topic of it in the forum and make it a special ...

Of course that takes some time and the longer it took before I did it, the more "Dad, when are you going to do it finally ?!" was whispered to me. Meanwhile the Phasure NOS1 Lego has been in the living room all the time and a few of you will have seen it when you were here.
Two months or so ago, when Paul had given up or at least stopped asking (more than a year later) I told him I had a nice idea but we had to wait for a while. Ha !
So today that day has finally come.

But you'd have to admit ... is this modular or isn't it ?
Really everything can be replaced and we can do it ourselves.

Ok, done. Out of here
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A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

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