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« on: May 20, 2008, 08:29:26 am »

It was my brother helping me. He say he followed your suggesting no. 2.
After that it works fine.

Something else:
I sometimes get "glitches" (kind of noise, similar to occational noise when listening FM radio in car) during a track. It can happen anytime during a song, but most often at the end of a song. It only happens with v. 15. not 14. Attended/Unattended doesn't matter. I play uncompressed WAV files.

My brother says it seems that there is some kind of "interuption" from Vista. -Other tasks stealing computer capasity. (He says Vista is running an index program all the time in the background).

When restarting the PC the problem goes away or get reduced. It is more prominent shortly after (first 3-5 minuttes) startup of computer.

I have Vista Ultimate with SP1.

Any idea?
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2008, 09:12:33 am »

[about the first alinea : this came from 09u-15 Long Error msg on startup, Vista. Then I split the post to this new topic]

Pedal, do during that occasion any messages from Vista pop up ? like "Host service has been shut down" or similar ?
If not, I do not recognize this. Otherwise, sure yes (and be sure to click away the message then; best is to restart playback).

And if not, could you try to describe better what you mean ?

1. A glitch would be a small repeat of the same sound (samples);
2. Crackling would be very brief soft ticks, a bit similar to vinyl;
3. Cracks would be bursts of obviously wrong data;
4. A hickup would be a small period of no sound.
5. Other ?

You seem to describe 2, but IMO that hardly can be incurred by other (Vista) activities ...

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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2008, 12:25:36 am »

Yes, it sounds like 2 but longer lasting. Like when spoiled beer dryed up and its remainings got stuck in the grooves of your LP.  Grin

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I think it is linked to my new PC. Not XX 14 or 15 in particular.

Checking Task Manager > Resource Monitor > Disk, then it occational happens that XX use up all the DISK capasity. It happens when XX has been closed down brutally (clumsy me/fidling with too many playlists). -Seems like that the old playlist remains "in the system", taxing the computer?

Just waiting (giving Vista some minutes after loading new playlist) and closeing/opening XX properly a couple of times, helps.

On my side, I will investigate if I can shut down some back ground Vista operations.
Also, I just installed 30GB solid state memory for Vista. (It's really lightning quick - loads albums in no time at all!) But maybe I will buy a bigger memory chip.

We will see.

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Apart from all this - the sound is dynamite now! For the first time in 25 years I am perfectly happy with the SQ of 16/44 files. So dynamic, so wideband, so transparent, so 3D, so liquid/natural. Who needs hi-rez? Boy o boy!!  yahoo

I hope you can tighten up the functionality and "go big" soon. The product is superb and it deserves more users.

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A final tip:

I love making playlists:
Best of Dylan mix.
Sunday morning mix.
Bass torture tracks mix.
Etc etc.

BUT: When changing XX version, every time I have to find manually and copy/paste the playlist files. Maybe you could create a dediated playlist-folder, making it easier to copy and organize?
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2008, 09:54:56 am »

I must say ... I see similarities with what Edward experiences (0.9u-12 --> Hiccups and Clicks) regarding his mentioned "long playlists". Maybe he means it differently ...

So far I always ignored the "long playlist" issue, because I couldn't make any sense out of it, but you seem to be kind of persistent in that it is related to that. And, in the end of course it is ...

It is, because the playlist has to be read from - and written to disk. This is done by a Windows feature which may cause unwanted overhead. Besides that, indeed (!) it is so that 0.9u-15 adds I/O that 0.9u-14 did not have (the caching of the (conversion) data).

All 'n all you will be 100% right.
I now think that Visa can't cope with the deletion/creation of files very well (with a playlist of, say, 200 entries, 200 files will be deleted-created respectively).

Question (for Edward as well if he reads this) : What would you consider a long playlist ?


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BUT: When changing XX version, every time I have to find manually and copy/paste the playlist files. Maybe you could create a dediated playlist-folder, making it easier to copy and organize?

I will do that.
And I am sorry that it works like this at this moment. I just never notice it because I always dump a new compiled version into the current folder (could be a 1000 times a day).


I have a tip for you too :
Swap the Sunday morning mix with the Bass torture mix. It could save you some spoiled beer. yes
But buy some extra eggs.
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W10-14393.0 - July 17, 2021 (2.11)
XXHighEnd Mach III Stealth LPS PC -> Xeon Scalable 14/28 core with Hyperthreading On (set to 14/28 cores in BIOS and set to 10/20 cores via Boot Menu) @~660MHz, 48GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 14393.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/0/0/*1*/ Q1Factor = *4* / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = *10ms* / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = *10.13*  (max 10.13) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / Stop Desktop, Remaining, WASAPI and W10 services / Use Remote Desktop / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD Off (!) / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *62* / Nervous Rate = *1* / Cool when Idle = n.a / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = Optimal / Time Stability = Stable / Custom Filtering *Low* (16x) / Always Clear Proxy before Playback = On -> USB3 from MoBo -> Lush^3
A: W-Y-R-G, B: *W-G* USB 1m00 -> Phisolator 24/768 Phasure NOS1a/G3 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (16ms) -> B'ASS Current Amplifier -> Blaxius*^2.5* A:B-G, B:B-G Interlink -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers. ET^2 Ethernet from Mach III to Music Server PC (RDC Control).
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere (also from the PC).

For a general PC :
W10-10586.0 - May 2016 (2.05+)
*XXHighEnd PC -> I7 3930k with Hyperthreading On (12 cores)* @~500MHz, 16GB, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit build 10586.0 from RAM, music on LAN / Engine#4 Adaptive Mode / Q1/-/3/4/5 = 14/-/1/1/1 / Q1Factor = 1 / Dev.Buffer = 4096 / ClockRes = 1ms / Memory = Straight Contiguous / Include Garbage Collect / SFS = 0.10  (max 60) / not Invert / Phase Alignment Off / Playerprio = Low / ThreadPrio = Realtime / Scheme = Core 3-5 / Not Switch Processors during Playback = Off/ Playback Drive none (see OS from RAM) / UnAttended (Just Start) / Always Copy to XX Drive (see OS from RAM) / All Services Off / Keep LAN - Not Persist / WallPaper On / OSD On / Running Time Off / Minimize OS / XTweaks : Balanced Load = *43* / Nervous Rate = 1 / Cool when Idle = 1 / Provide Stable Power = 1 / Utilize Cores always = 1 / Time Performance Index = *Optimal* / Time Stability = *Stable* / Custom Filter *Low* 705600 / -> USB3 *from MoBo* -> Clairixa USB 15cm -> Intona Isolator -> Clairixa USB 1m80 -> 24/768 Phasure NOS1a 75B (BNC Out) async USB DAC, Driver v1.0.4b (4ms) -> Blaxius BNC interlink *-> B'ASS Current Amplifier /w Level4 -> Blaxius Interlink* -> Orelo MKII Active Open Baffle Horn Speakers.
Removed Switching Supplies from everywhere.

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