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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2012, 09:07:22 pm »

this is what I actually ordered from amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aleratec-240172-Female-Male-Adapter/dp/B000Q6EC16/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331582727&sr=8-1
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2012, 09:15:11 pm »

it would be good to know if there is any difference between the USB 3.0 motherboard and USB 3.0 PCIe card routes if anyone is able to test both setups (my mother board will not allow me to test, no USB 3.0).

I can find an usb 3.0 A male to A male but I haven't been able to find an usb 3.0 A female to usb 2.0 B male adapter  scratching

Any suggestions for a source?

Stanley

I have been searching for this lead config as well but nothing so far. I have some USB 2.0 solderable male connectors so I may adapt a 3.0 lead and avoid the need for an adaptor.



What a great hobby this is!!! tweakers paradise.



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Juan,  I meant to say thanks for the adaptor links in my earlier post.


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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2012, 10:57:10 pm »

This evening I went to a specialized cable store near my home and bought an USB 3.0 cable and an adaptor like the one Scroobius said.

First the good news: before I put the USB 3.0 cable I tested the USB 2.0 cable in the USB 3.0 port and yes, the sound is better than the other way. It seems smoother or at least as smooth as using the USB 2.0 port, but for sure the sound is fuller, it is like if the sound is filling up the room in a fuller way.

The bad news is that I was unable to install the driver with the USB 3.0 cable/adapter in. Iīve tried it more than 10 times in all the different ways, turning off the dac and the PC and plugging the USB cable later etc. No way. Ok, could be the cable or the adaptor that are defective, I donīt know, tomorrow morning Iīll go back to the store to change it to see what happens.

At least, it seems that the USB 3.0 port sounds better and thatīs a nice discovery. So, thanks to you Nick

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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2012, 11:35:01 pm »

Update  -  after an evening listening to USB3 it is clearly better. More relaxed analogue presentation there seems to be more detail but presented in such a relaxed way that I really do not want to go to bed. My wife can clearly hear the improvement - that means it really must exist  -  why did I not think to try it  -  durgh.

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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2012, 11:58:43 pm »

Update  -  after an evening listening to USB3 it is clearly better. More relaxed analogue presentation there seems to be more detail but presented in such a relaxed way that I really do not want to go to bed. My wife can clearly hear the improvement - that means it really must exist  -  why did I not think to try it  -  durgh.

Big Thanks to Nick

Paul, I totally agree about the presentation. I find I'm just relaxing into the music more and listening analytically less. Glad you like it and relieved it was not a case of tweeters placebo  Happy

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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2012, 09:04:57 am »

Nice ...

It won't take long before everbody is connected by the blue wire. Except me myself of course.

Cry

But I see more opportunities;
Assumed that -like I suggested earlier on- it is just USB3 doing something nice (from the OS angle) - or perhaps more logically : USB2 NOT doing bad things, we would be able to cut off the whole USB (not 3), right ?
That again may matter ...
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2012, 10:09:45 am »

Nice ...

It won't take long before everbody is connected by the blue wire. Except me myself of course.

Cry

But I see more opportunities;
Assumed that -like I suggested earlier on- it is just USB3 doing something nice (from the OS angle) - or perhaps more logically : USB2 NOT doing bad things, we would be able to cut off the whole USB (not 3), right ?
That again may matter ...

Peter hi,

It would be good if there is a lead towards software changes here.

Regarding your comment about turning off USB 2 drivers. First I added the USB 3 card and the sound improved the most. Them turned off the motherboard USB 2 ports in bios (so no USB 2 drivers loading I guess). The sound defiantly improved slightly again when the bios change was made. General turning off unused physical devices seems to help but could easily be the lack of USB 2 drivers loaded that made the second improvement.

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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2012, 10:50:22 am »

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Hey Nick - I can imagine that.
But, what do you mean ?
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2012, 03:08:11 pm »

Today Iīve tried again to install the Phasure drivers with a new USB 3.0 cable and adaptor in an USB 3.0 port and it was impossible. However the USB 2.0 cable in the USB 3.0 port works perfectly. I wait for some others experiences to see if they can install the driver with an USB 3.0 cable.

Iīve disabled the USB 2.0 ports in the bios as Nick said and all I can say is that the sound is fantastic, yes, relaxed and full.

Best regards,
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2012, 03:54:09 pm »

Today Iīve tried again to install the Phasure drivers with a new USB 3.0 cable and adaptor in an USB 3.0 port and it was impossible. However the USB 2.0 cable in the USB 3.0 port works perfectly. I wait for some others experiences to see if they can install the driver with an USB 3.0 cable.

Iīve disabled the USB 2.0 ports in the bios as Nick said and all I can say is that the sound is fantastic, yes, relaxed and full.

Best regards,
Juan

Glad to hear that the sound is good.

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Hey Nick - I can imagine that.
But, what do you mean ?
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Nothing specific in mind Peter, just that knowing that there are differences between the USB2 / 3 drivers and OS behavior might be helpfull.

With the PCIe USB 3 board I think a PCIe to PCI bridge conversion step has been elliminated a may be helping reduce harware bus latency. This has got me thinking again about the new Socket 2011 CPU architecture. It could be that quite a few features may illiminate steps for the audio stream eg illimination of the North Bridge and 4 Channel memory access, not to mention the 12 threads that the CPU supports etc hummmm...

Cheers,

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« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2012, 09:01:07 pm »

Like to try it!  Happy

(For the Dutch) Found the same one i think at www.conrad.nl

973583 - 89  (put this in the search area) Happy
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« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2012, 09:55:41 pm »

Gerard, that links to your shopping card or something. So for "us" that link is dead ...
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« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2012, 09:59:56 pm »

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Today Iīve tried again to install the Phasure drivers with a new USB 3.0 cable and adaptor in an USB 3.0 port and it was impossible. However the USB 2.0 cable in the USB 3.0 port works perfectly. I wait for some others experiences to see if they can install the driver with an USB 3.0 cable.

Juan, I read this but couldn't make much sense out of it. IOW ... do you actually have a problem, or not ?

And I mean ... I don't see the problem with installing the Phasure drivers "on to" that USB3 port, as long as it can go with a USB2 cable. Well, that seems what you are implying ?

Regards,
Peter
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« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2012, 10:19:02 pm »

I have tried what I think of as an extreamly effective DIY USB 2 lead on the USB 3 port this afternoon and found that there is quite a noticable improvment in sound. When used on the usb 2 port this cable is better than a standard cable but exposed a sharpness in the high frequency so I did not use it day to day. Now when used with the USB 3 port it has a VERY nice high presentation and first impresions are that it is noticably better than a "standard" USB 2 cable.

I think I can see why a fellow NOS user sent the comment below to  Peter (Peter published this earlier in this thread).

"4 Use a USB cable rated for USB 3. I was using an expensive USB 2 cable. Today I switched to a cheap USB 3 cable. The difference in top end extension was *astounding*. You will need a USB A to USB B adapter because a true USB 3 B cable is not compatible with the NOS 1 USB input. System is now finally sounding 'high-end'."

Tests with genuine USB 3 cables and adapters to follow.

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« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2012, 10:23:26 pm »

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Today Iīve tried again to install the Phasure drivers with a new USB 3.0 cable and adaptor in an USB 3.0 port and it was impossible. However the USB 2.0 cable in the USB 3.0 port works perfectly. I wait for some others experiences to see if they can install the driver with an USB 3.0 cable.

Juan, I read this but couldn't make much sense out of it. IOW ... do you actually have a problem, or not ?

And I mean ... I don't see the problem with installing the Phasure drivers "on to" that USB3 port, as long as it can go with a USB2 cable. Well, that seems what you are implying ?

Regards,
Peter

Sorry, what I wanted to say is that I only can use the USB 3.0 port with a USB 2.0 cable because if I put a USB 3.0 cable in place the USB 2.0 cable
(in the same USB 3.0 port)  the sound device (Phasure dac) disappears and it is impossible to install the driver again, unless I return to the USB 2.0 cable. So now Iīm listening music with a USB 2.0 cable in a USB 3.0 port.

And it wasnīt a problem of the USB 3.0 cable or the adapter because I changed both for another new ones. Iīd like to know is if someone else have the same problem. Repeat: No way to install the Phasure driver if I use a USB 3.0 cable in the USB 3.0 port connected with an adapter to the NOS 1.

Best regards,
Juan

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