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« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2010, 01:37:53 pm »

Hi Ivo, I am able to play 24/96 files, engine 4, 9y-5-06.
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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2010, 01:40:51 pm »

Using HiFace?

Anyway I guess you have *DAC is* set to 32 bits, ah?

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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2010, 01:42:23 pm »

Right, no hiface and dac set to 32 bits.
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2010, 01:43:37 pm »

Yeah Happy

The summary was ment for HiFace device. I also can run DAP and QAP with engine#4 with my AudioTrak Prodigy HD2.

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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2010, 02:16:53 pm »

Yeah Happy

The summary was ment for HiFace device. I also can run DAP and QAP with engine#4 with my AudioTrak Prodigy HD2.

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Lets stay with the topic XXHIGHEND / M2TECH

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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2010, 04:56:59 pm »

Okay, so when are you guys going to let us know how XX sound via Hiface? Am presuming its very good.  ok
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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2010, 12:00:49 pm »

Okay, so when are you guys going to let us know how XX sound via Hiface? Am presuming its very good.  ok

Sounds  sounds good !

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« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2010, 12:12:06 pm »

It sounds smoother than Foobar V1.0 but I don't know yet if this is a good or bad - I'm listening through headphones & need to hear it on a full rig. I'll be bringing my HiFace + laptop to an audio meeting on Saturday & I'll be auditioning it more fully then. I will report back on the consensus opinion.

Also, I'm a bit concerned - I've had a number of Blue Screens of Death showing VADSPDIF.SYS as the driver problem - this is a HiFace driver & I'm wondering if it's flaky? It only seems to happen when running XX though.

I've also noticed, when running Foobar or other music players, that sometimes there's a drop-out in sound for a second in the music - have you noticed this gonz?
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« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2010, 12:19:11 pm »

You mean XX+HiFace is smoother than Foobar+HiFace?
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« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2010, 12:22:59 pm »

You mean XX+HiFace is smoother than Foobar+HiFace?
Yes, that's exactly it. Normally I would rate smoother as better but I need to listen on a good rig to be sure Happy
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« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2010, 12:27:33 pm »

Actually I like XMPLay better than Foobar if we talk about WASAPI path. But XX beats both. XMPlay and Foobar are more sharp and colder than XX therefore I myself consider XX as better. Also XX has better pronounced bass, I would say it is more intelligent than XM's or Foobar's.
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« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2010, 12:38:35 pm »

Actually I like XMPLay better than Foobar if we talk about WASAPI path. But XX beats both. XMPlay and Foobar are more sharp and colder than XX therefore I myself consider XX as better. Also XX has better pronounced bass, I would say it is more intelligent than XM's or Foobar's.
Yes, I'm also trying to listen to CPlay but the CUE sheets are killing me. I haven't noticed the more pronounced bass with XX, in fact I might have said the opposite but again I'm only listening through headphones & all their limitations.

You don't have any drop-out problems with the latest HiFace drivers then? It might be my laptop which is flaky & I've been threatening to switch to WIn7 but don't have external disk space for a backup!

Edit: Oh, just realised XMplay is different to CPlay, doh!
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« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2010, 12:51:57 pm »

No, no, no. I do not have HiFace yet at all. My comparisons are based on my current gear which is laptop+quick dock with spdif out. I am preparing myself to order HiFace. But actually, the relations among Foo/XM/XX will remain anyways I guess. Yes, CPlay with its crazy cue sheets is also killing me, but its sound is interesting - I tried to upsample from 44 --> 192 and it actually beats XX to my mind in terms of dynamics. The shortage of CPlay is that it has the overall sound sig moved a bit up - less bass and more highs if compared to XX. I do not know what is better so far. Actually, I do not know why XX is limited to 88 and 176 kHz upsampling and not allowing to do 192.
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« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2010, 02:43:41 pm »

You don't have to open files through cmp. Click "explore", install JRiver Media CEnter and set for external software -> cPlay. This is the best combo in terms of SQ and convenience, period.

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I suggest you run DPC Latency checker at your machines and write it here. Mine shows constant 2-3 us.
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« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2010, 03:00:38 pm »

It sounds smoother than Foobar V1.0 but I don't know yet if this is a good or bad - I'm listening through headphones & need to hear it on a full rig. I'll be bringing my HiFace + laptop to an audio meeting on Saturday & I'll be auditioning it more fully then. I will report back on the consensus opinion.

Also, I'm a bit concerned - I've had a number of Blue Screens of Death showing VADSPDIF.SYS as the driver problem - this is a HiFace driver & I'm wondering if it's flaky? It only seems to happen when running XX though.

I've also noticed, when running Foobar or other music players, that sometimes there's a drop-out in sound for a second in the music - have you noticed this gonz?

I also had the bluescreen and shutdown problems with XXHIGHEND / M2TECH, but after reinstalling both XXHIGH and the M2TECH drivers it`s been far more stable ! I`ve have no experience with the Foobar problems you mention cause I don`t have Foobar on my PC ! A freind of mine use the Foobar software and I use his machine to compare the sound quality ! I don`think that Foobar sounds better that Win Media Player !

I await Peter`s feedback, when he has had a chance to fool around with the M2TECH himself ! Maybe he can solve our small problems ( hopefully )  Happy

Maybe the full version of XXHIGHEND works better in this case ???
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