David,

Jogging my memory. The only thing I remember is a discussion related to the position of Switch #3 on the NOS1.  It was not specifically related to switching to high res formats. I do get a slight "tick" when this happens, but it's very soft.  I may be completely off here, but at one time there was potential for a loud pop related to leaving Switch #3 either up or down (I do not remember) for an extended period of time.  I'm assuming you are using the latest version of XXHE that fixed the "crack" detect issue that could also create a very loud pop.

Ramesh

Hello everyone,

I just upgraded to the NOS1 G3 and Stealth II with the Lush ^3. I’m using all the same settings as Peter, but I get a load pop when the format switches to MQA or a higher res. It's very much like when the DAC is turned off when the amp is still on, so it's quite unpleasant.

This didn’t happen with my older NOS1 as far as I remember and I can’t find a related topic in the forum yet.

If anyone remembers having this problem and how to fix it, I would greatly appreciate it.

Best regards,

David

Thanks Peter, interesting as always.

I am not going waste anyone's time talking about my diy Orelino since it it has nothing to do with the real Orelino. What you said is true, I did not achieve the sound what I wanted by going diy. It is too much of a compromise. The baffle resonances, filters, all of it. That is why got the Sigmas when I got the chance. I never got the filter right by my self so I really understand your point.

Before my next statement I want to say that my system is not perfect. It does not have the magic highs like Acapella ion tweeter has. It does not image 3d like some smaller speakers do. The sound does not have the coherence like good full range drivers have etc.

But it does represent music realistically in my opinion. The reason I listen so close to the speaker is because only then I get to peek into the recording, only then I really feel the music, see the performer in front of me. In my room only then i get the feeling and the sound what I need to get satisfaction out of hifi system - it is funny since once a hifi retailer in my country told me it is impossible to achieve the sound I am searching for when he asked what I want.

I have not heard Orelo or original Orelino (I would very much like to) but I am sure they do music very very well. To my knowledge there are not Orelo or Orelino owners in my country Finland.

Hi there Chad - nice to run into your post.

The original Orelino has been developed by me for it's filter part as a derivative from what Bert did beforehand, and the DSP for the 12"ers in there was done from the ground by me.
I think you have neither crucial part.

... and this is only a small "crucial part" ...

The funniest part is that I personally have one real measure : observe standing waves in the room (read : when they are there a. it is not the very best and b. you will hear the room). Now the thing is : we (Phasure and its community) always hunted for the very best sound and we used all the elements for that in the audio chain. PC, PC Audio Playback software, D/A converter, Power Amps (actively present in the Orelo), USB Cable to the D/A converter, Interlinks. So where we indeed produce each of mentioned elements (with the notice we are crazy, and Bert actually builds the speakers - but he is crazy just the same for these massive projects) - it always comes down to nothing leaving any building when the slightest standing wave can be detected in the slightest (or largest) corner.
Only when the room has explicit wrong dimensions, things may not work out, although with the DSP you may achieve some things after all.

The moral : so many things can be wrong while they should be good, that the in the basis not-distorting open baffle you have at hand, may let go wrong everything when other elements are "not right".

Ramesh (briefremarks) and so many others can testify the truth in this, as - for example - nobody came over and listen to these speakers in advance. Same for the Audio PC. Same for the software (obviously). Also same for the cables. Maybe not the same for the DAC (apparently this is special to people), but all the stuff just builds on the "matching" which by far most people learned from the software (say back in 2008).

And no, I am most explicitly not trying to sell you anything - not even the software - so it is only about the message : work on your other elements and you will have a more than superb speaker. But assumed you have the same power amps as Bert could have provided them and the DSP in there which should do the same job as the Hypex we use in the Orelo, with settings you could have obtained from Bert.

That's all !
Kind regards,
Peter


PS: It may not be commonly known that the Orelo lends itself perfectly for having them 6 maters apart (my situation) and listen to them at 3-4 meters distance. So Yes, this is part of your story.
In the mean time my normal listening distance is 9-10 meters (toeing unchanged).

Chad,

I've had this experience with other speakers, specifically the LX521 that needed a fair amount of distance from the front and side wall.  This has never been my experience with the Orelo.  What I like about them is that you can position them relatively close to the front and side walls--I think I was just too close.  I'm also trying to optimize for listening from multiple positions.  I've listened close and far back.  Different experiences.  The Orelo works well in both cases once the toe-in is set properly.  Too much toe-in was a problem I had.

First time poster here. Hi all!

I have owned Orphean horns for years. During this time I have tried several bass setups. Best of these is Sigma (made by Bert)  and second is  my diy Orelino with three 12" Beyma drivers.

If you have a perfect room you can skip the rest of my message...

My advice for those who struggle with the sound quality is to move the speakers away as much as possible from the walls. And start to listen at close range.  And I mean close. When I realized that only then I started to hear the speaker and not the room. You'll know when you got it close enough, trust me.

From the speakers I have 1, 5 m to side walls and about 2 meters to the front wall (the wall behind the speakers).

Also the room in my experience is better to treat with diffusers. Maybe with bass traps for the problem frequencies.

At Bert's place the listening distance to the speakers was longer and somehow there the room did not affect the sound. So I am not saying that close distance listening the best choice for every room.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards, C

Hi Peter,

The music is loud and clear in the submarine!

thanks

Oops ... Are you still there Arjan ? I read it, forgot about it and then the forum does not remind me of it any more (no "new"). Apologies !

Yes, sure you can order a new RAM-OS disk. But not for the full price. ;-)
Make that 130 euros for the SSD in this case and the work to be done. Including shipping.
If you can transfer that to the bank account and send me an email that you  did so, then I will make one for you.

If you can't see the bank account easily, drop me an email.

Kind regards,
Peter

Hi Peter,

Can I just order a new ram-os from the shop?
Could you also e-mail me the driver for the dac?

kind regards