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 on: May 23, 2015, 05:24:31 am 
Started by michaeljeger - Last post by PeterSt
Hi Michael,

Yes, it is vague.

The 1.04 version is for general usage. Like for HQPlayer etc.
However, it was found at one of the customers that he could not install the UNsigned driver for an unknown reason (with the notice that installing unsigned 64 bits drivers for Windows 8  officially can't work anyway and that some tricks are applied).

So now 2.00-a (and up) supports the old (Signed) driver just as well but which driver thus only communicates with XXHihgENd for the Sample Rate base (clock) change.


 on: May 23, 2015, 05:02:56 am 
Started by rakeshpoorun - Last post by PeterSt
There must be a small misunderstanding at hand.
I now see that the Asus (!) Geforce 210 also exists in fanned version (or has existed ?) but this is "ours" (see below).

Obtain it in the lowest amount of memory version (which is 1GB these days - was 500MB).


 on: May 23, 2015, 04:10:24 am 
Started by rakeshpoorun - Last post by Robocop
Rakesh, I've just made a dedicated PC look at my details. It was expensive for me to get Peter's dedicated PC all the way from Holland to New Zealand.

I went for the i7 4790k 4Ghz 8MB LGA1150, Corsair 16gb Ram, Corsair AX760i power supply, ASUS Z97-A motherboard. Its totally dedicated to audio. I havn't even played with Bios settings yet or XXhighend settings.
Well all I can say is wow!!! compared to my i3 laptop it is no comparison. When I push the on button the screen is ready to go almost instantly. And the music is massively improved in every respect.

Not having heard Peter's either I would state mine is a minimum to consider. One thing is, different manufactured computer components do sound different, some better, some worse. Unfortunately unless one has access to all these to try you just have to run with what you choose. 
There is a member of this community who is dedicated to making PC's for better sound(Chronos) based in UK, Nick and like all good things this comes at a price.


 on: May 23, 2015, 02:54:12 am 
Started by rakeshpoorun - Last post by AlainGr
Hi Alain,

Thanks for taking the time with the thoughtful and highly instructive post. In all honesty, I do not know how this build has come to be regarded as a "super powered pc."

If it is indeed a "super powered pc," this was not my intention and the whole thing is a darned mistake. Given how little I know about computers generally, it is not at all the situation I was aiming for. And a mistake of the worse kind, because I have already acquired quite a lot of the parts required for this project. This is what I have bought as things stand:

    2 x E5-2648L v3
    Hynix 64GB DDR4 Ram (4 x 16GB)
    Intel 750 SSD 400GB PCIe NVME, to use as bootable drive for Windows 8 64bit OS and XXHighend
    2 x 300GB Western Digital Velociraptor WD3000BLF 2.5" (SATA 3Gb/s)

I am planning to add these parts:
    Supermicro X10DAC motherboard or Supermicro X10DAX based on what Peter has said above
    Silverstone EC04-P PCI Express Card
    Palit Geforce GTX 750 ti Kalmx
    Samsung 256GB PCIe ACHI SSD to use for Galleries

I imagine it is never really too late and I could always just leave out the Supermicro board, use only some of the RAM and go for something simpler.

But Alain, I thought the idea of having two cpus, which are both low powered and have 12 cores each, made a lot of sense (the CPUs are rated at 75W each, half of what many here are using). I never intended using Windows Server OS but rather Windows 8 64bit that I thought most people over here use. I did not know that the RAM could be too much, I had read in a thread somewhere that Peter worked out for high resolution and upsampled music one would be looking at 24GB and Juan also seemed to have added to his Ram to get to 24GB. I thought 32Gb was fine but because I had two CPUs, I thought let me make sure each CPU can access 32Gb...Maybe the reasoning above is "rubbish," using Peter's helpful terminology , but that's where my thinking got me.

I clearly have a choice. Rethink the whole thing and go for a single processor motherboard or since I have advanced so far, bite the bullet and see what comes out of it.

What would be great would be if I could meet someone who has bought Peter's XXHighend's PC that I could listen to so I would have a benchmark and could then see just how much I have messed it up. So if you Alain are not too far, and you do not mind, please let me know and I could come and listen to your system if not too inconvenient...It is about time I get to listen to someone's well settled Phasure NOS1/1a + XXHighend PC system. I will bring along a nice bottle of wine for your effort. I am in SE England and often in Alsace in France where my family lives...

Best regards
Hi Rakesh,

I live in Canada, a little far from where you live unhappy Maybe someone else will raise his hand and offer the hospitality ?

Since you already have the parts, I would probably "bite the bullet" too Happy I won't say that I am not curious about the results that will emanate from your choices. Peter may remember that some years ago, when I was about to have a dedicated PC for XXHighEnd, I mentioned "a server motherboard and a xeon processor". At the time, it seemed to me that this kind of PC would be simpler for the task. I finally settled for the Intel 3930k i7 but alas I bought an Asus Sabertooth X79 mobo and I can't get my CPU lower than 1.3ghz... When I see that Peter can go a lot lower than this... Grrrr Alain Wink

I also understand that you have at least thoroughly studied the components and have done a lot of reading through the different threads. Somehow you have done your homework and there is nothing negative with that.

My word of advice would be like this: do not put too much stuff in your PC. Keep it simple. Raid ? No need for that. Each thing that you add is taking power and adding another variable. If I understand correctly, you may have 4 drives in your PC ?

My music PC even has its system disk in an external enclosure. This was for personal reasons but I will not require that anymore soon. The music drive is a silent 4TB drive connected on another PC (my "all purpose PC" -> older), the 2 PCs connected with a direct LAN connection. No monitor, no keyboard, no mouse is connected to the music PC (only when needed). I access the music PC from my all purpose PC through the Remote Desktop Connection (RDC). For the moment it is not the perfect combination since I don't have the NOS1 upgraded to the "a" version but it is also a future project for me too Happy

The reason I don't need more than 2 drives has a lot to do with my habits. I do not use pics and graphics (no gallery) and I also play only a few songs at a time, so the music drive does not need to be very fast. I also have my songs in WAV format (no FLAC) so no conversion is necessary.

You will need to have a backup strategy to not lose all you will rip (and download), but for the moment it is a little too early for this Happy

Keep on ok ?



 on: May 22, 2015, 08:01:30 pm 
Started by michaeljeger - Last post by michaeljeger
Hi Peter

Thanks thanks for pointing it out. Changed filename and working perfectly.

Just for my understanding, what are the 1.04 drivers for then?
I am not quite sure I fully understand the release notes.


 on: May 22, 2015, 07:07:34 pm 
Started by rakeshpoorun - Last post by rakeshpoorun
so it looks fairly reasonable to me.

My 3930 based Audio PC consumes 49W during 32/705600 playback and that includes the (210) graphics card.

I hope this is helpful. Happy

Hi Peter,

It is indeed very helpful. Thanks.

It would be interesting to know the power draw of the Nvidia Graphic card alone at idle. I cannot find that information whereas I was able to get a fairly good idea of the Palit power consumption at idle which is 10W. Maybe the two cards are not so dissimilar in this respect?

The Nvidia 210 graphics card is really a boon for people who need one but want to keep both noise and power consumption very low.

It is however not silent if I understand correctly? Does the fan not come on even when it is at idle? This is what I have read in a  review online:

 "GT 210 -- The noise levels coming from the card are average, in idle you will not hear the card as we measured 40 DBa. Which is below the threshold of noise from the PC itself. Once the GPU starts to heat up the fan RPM will go up. The card however remains steady and we measure roughly 41 dBA which a decent enough noise level. It's alright -- but not silent." (from Guru3d.com review)

The Palit is passively cooled (there are no fans present at all) so should in theory be completely silent.

The disadvantage of the Palit is that under load its temperature will go up to 55C with good ventilation (against 45C for the Nvidia). That 10C difference is meaningless during playback since the two cards are at idle (where their temperatures are 32C and 39C respectively, not a lot in it).

So swings and roundabouts. I will give the Nvidia the nod though. It seems the less risky solution based on your experience so that's the one I will go for. Peter, thanks for the tip.

Best regards

 on: May 22, 2015, 05:53:45 pm 
Started by rakeshpoorun - Last post by PeterSt
so it looks fairly reasonable to me.

My 3930 based Audio PC consumes 49W during 32/705600 playback and that includes the (210) graphics card.

I hope this is helpful. Happy

 on: May 22, 2015, 05:48:08 pm 
Started by rakeshpoorun - Last post by rakeshpoorun
I would like to ask a couple of questions if I may.

(i) How do I make sure I get the right Silverstone SST-EC04-P card?

 I have read somehere that there are two versions of the card and would like to order the correct one. I can see that the card is available on www.scan.co.uk, see link below:


Has anyone ordered the card from Scan? Can you confirm whether it is the correct one? And if not and you know where the correct card can be sourced please let me know?

Is there a simple to understand guide as to how the card is to be modified and isolated from the chassis of the computer?

(ii) Would the Palit Geforce GTX 750 Ti Kalmx be suitable keeping in mind requirements for low power consumption?

I was initially thinking of the Nvidia GeForce 210 1Gb DDR3 but think that the Palit Geforce GTX 750 Ti Kalmx would not significantly affect power consumption. Is the Palit something that anyone has tried and would it be suitable? It is passively cooled and power consumption is fairly low at 10W idle (but 88W under GPU Load against 30W for the Nvidia GeForce 210) so it looks fairly reasonable to me.

Best regards

 on: May 22, 2015, 04:04:29 pm 
Started by manisandher - Last post by PeterSt
Ah Joachim, that is sad !

Well, then enjoy *this* weekend !


 on: May 22, 2015, 04:02:15 pm 
Started by rakeshpoorun - Last post by PeterSt
I realise it was a waste of your time. For that I do apologise. I still think you could have been a little less abstruse with your response...

Not at all, not needed and no.

Best regards,

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