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316  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 10074 and the Music Root on: December 07, 2015, 01:55:16 pm
Ok, "looking forward" - haha

Maybe you recall that the other day I responded to someone about HiRes and what happens after I played such an album (or a couple of tracks of it) - always at the limits of course swoon ...
After that my PC is out of order for maybe over a minute (not responsive). So, in my case it is able to do all for Playback, but I guess things stack up so much that when playback stops it needs to catch breath for a while. Understand ?
So I was thinking about a new track, implying catching breath and now that taking priority, perhaps.

Now I don't hear you say that problem albums are always HiRes, but to be honest I can play them unnoticed (or a few tracks) because they're in my Demo Gallery etc. and I just select a few nice pictures, so to speak.
But *if* you can recognize it's always about Hires ... don't hesitate to admit it. Happy

One other thing :
I think I saw you did not use Coverart for that particular (HiRes) Album. Why ?
I'm hinting a bit to other problems I found for 10074 (only) and which could imply anomalies, seen by the Coverart not showing. If that is your case too, then maybe it is virtually solved (over here it is since two days).

Thanks,
Peter

I think this is the only hi-res album that I have had an issue with...I think...I don't have many.  No coverart because the album was a download and none came with it, and I have been too lazy to download one from the net, although I should do that.

The Neil Young and Daft Punk were both cd rips.
317  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 10074 and the Music Root on: December 07, 2015, 12:14:37 pm
Anthony,

OK, thanks.

Before I proceed can you explain this to me (with the notice I may misinterpret something again) :

It has been in order that highering your SFS helps the problem. So, a couple of days later you run into the problem again, and if I see right your SFS is at 0.12.
Why, if you know the problem is caused by a too low SFS in the first place ?

If you, for fun, look into your X3 log file, you can see the repetetive procedure each 0.024 seconds. Do you know how SHORT that is ? Normally that wouldn't even allow to write that log data within that period of time, continuously. Meaning : already for that I don't trust what's happening, no matter you, obviously, will say that it was exactly the same as without the logging.

Show me similar with an SFS of 2 or higher and I won't blame your system. Is that OK with you ?

Regards,
Peter

PS: I may also wonder how you lasted so many days with this low SFS (did you ??) while at first (start of this topic) you could let fail about everything (that's how I read it). Shed some light if possible ...

Most albums play just fine with SFS at 0.09 or 0.12.  There are just some that stop after a song or two or three, maybe a quarter or less of the albums I try (I have not kept track of the percentage).  I don't know for sure that the problem is caused by the too low SFS, I just know that some albums don't work while most albums do work.

I will do the logging of that album with the higher SFS higher tomorrow and send the files across.

Thanks,

Anthony
318  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 10074 and the Music Root on: December 07, 2015, 12:06:29 pm
And Anthony, if I see it right, then this is HighRes (24/176400 I'd say). Now all your bets are off because this is way (way) more hammering on everything on the "reading" side of matters.

Peter

Yes, I think that album is hires...I'd completely forgotten.
319  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 10074 and the Music Root on: December 07, 2015, 09:27:12 am
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I had the situation today where an album played and stopped as discussed in this thread, and then I turned on logging

Please be clear ?
Logging is of no use when it is turned on after the event. I'm sure you understand that. And *thus* I don't understand what you want (me to do) now ?

sorry
Peter

Yes, logging was turned on for the event.  I played the album this morning and it stopped on me, so I turned on logging and pressed play again and the event happened again while the logging was turned on.  You now have those files.  Sorry to not be clear.

320  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 10074 and the Music Root on: December 07, 2015, 08:36:26 am
Hello Anthony,

Your log files are fine, but I can not use them because nothing went wrong (as you told).

Regards,
Peter

Well, the music stopped early and the computer sat there for a while with a blank screen until I pressed Alt-X to get back into XXHE.
321  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 10074 and the Music Root on: December 07, 2015, 12:57:42 am

Start that Playlist (at this first track), wait until music stops (and XXHighEnd comes up again, I'd say) and then grab the log files.


Hi Peter,

I had the situation today where an album played and stopped as discussed in this thread, and then I turned on logging and played the album again at I had no stuttering problems.  The log files are attached.  I could not find any X3 and X3PB log files at all, but did find *.log files in the TemporaryData folder on a RAMdisk.

Anthony
322  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Tidal "Search" on: December 04, 2015, 06:44:32 am
That's the one.
323  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Tidal "Search" on: December 03, 2015, 10:29:44 pm
Anthony, can you rephrase somewhat please ?
What is the album in question ?
How can you tell (at the Denon) that it is a Remaster, without seeing/knowing that "elsewhere" (?) ?

Thank you,
Peter

Talk Talk "Spirit of Eden" is the album in question.  When streaming to the Denon or AppleTV from the Tidal app on the iPad that album comes up as a 1997 Remaster.  As far as I can see in the Tidal app itself there is no mention of remastering when you look at the album alone, but look at the track listing and it has "(1997 Remastered Version)" not once but twice...."Eden (1997 Remastered Version)(1997 Remastered Version)"

I also found a Sting album from my youth that I wanted to listen to again that shows up in Tidal but not XXHE.  "Nothing Like the Sun" is the album...can you see that now with your updated XXHE Tidal search?
324  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Tidal "Search" on: December 03, 2015, 11:48:03 am
Tonight I have played with the Tidal player for the iPad and set it up with the Denon AVR in the lounge room.  There I noticed that the particular Talk Talk album in question is a 1997 remaster, so on the long shot that this is pertinent to this conversation I thought I would mention it.
325  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 10074 and the Music Root on: December 03, 2015, 11:45:02 am
I think that any album that I have had trouble with will play when SFS = 0.20, maybe even as low SFS=0.15, I can't really remember.  Logging works at these levels that enable the album to play properly, whether that be 0.15 or 0.20.

I will keep an eye out tomorrow and check this with any problem albums encounter.
326  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: Anyone like to comment on this NOS DAC on: December 03, 2015, 11:40:03 am
Good to hear!  That 28.5bits resolution is an extraordinary claim.  I was wondering how they even measure such a thing...
327  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Tidal "Search" on: December 03, 2015, 11:04:17 am
Anthony,

Happy

Small remark : maybe next time don't make the screens where you make the screenshot from, so wide. Comparing can make one dizzy.

Anyway, the Tidal Player in this case seems to offer the same for our both cases, but what their database officially offers, is not.

Btw ... oops ... what I showed in my previous post was for the USA (remainder from yesterday's testing). Below is The Netherlands (one added, haha) :

Thanks,
Peter

Yeah, sorry about the large screens.  My monitors are quite large but I will trim the images down in future.
328  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: 10074 and the Music Root on: December 03, 2015, 10:59:28 am
Hi Peter,

I have tried the things that you suggested, and am back to Unattended play.  Firstly I played back from files on a hard drive in the XXHEpc and I had the same issues as before, namely a song finishes and then the next one fails to start (I have to press Alt-? for music to restart or to bring back XXHE).

Then I tried the logging.  Not possible, at least I could not figure out how to get a good result.  The logging causes stuttering of the music and when when I raise the SFS to a level that stops the stuttering the next song plays on as it is supposed to, so it is pointless I think because the logging is affecting the operation of the playback.  Please correct me otherwise.

Today I played maybe a half a dozen albums until I ran into one that did the stopping:  Tame Impala "Currents".  I decided to look more closely into the behaviour when I restarted the music by pressing Alt-N and realised that when playback was restarted after a stop that it was not the next song that played, but the song three down (i.e. if it stopped on track 6 Alt-N would make Track 9 play next).  This album had two or perhaps three stops in it.

Does this help at all?

Regards,

Anthony
329  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Tidal "Search" on: December 03, 2015, 10:48:33 am
I really like the idea of Tidal integration in XXHE and the way that you have gone about it, so thanks from me. 
330  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: Anyone like to comment on this NOS DAC on: December 03, 2015, 10:45:10 am
While we are talking about resolving bits, did you see that the http://www.msbtech.com/products/dac4select.php?Page=dac4home is supposed to resolve 28.5 bits?  By my calculations that is a noise floor of -171dB...wow.

If you read the blurb they reckon they can now hear CD quantization noise.  US$90k+ though!!
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