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571  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: Most convenient Storage Structure ? on: August 01, 2007, 11:24:26 am
This all seems too simple - I must be missing something?

On my new hard drive I have created a system based on folders, with 5 layers of depth

Top layer is genres such as:
  • Country

Second layer is:
  • Solo male
    Solo female
    Group male
    Croup female
    Group mixed

Third layer is performers name (eg under Country - solo female);
  • Reba McEntire
    Gretchen Wilson
    Shania Twain
    Alison Krauss

Fourth layer is Album tiltles for each selected artist.

Fifth layer is the album itself from EAC with track numbers, titles, lengths, and album artwork.

I can get to any album or track with 5 clicks of the mouse thankyou

I've got my HDs set up as the genres  Keeping them as Jazz, Folk (covers lots of stuff that isn't, well, jazz heh), Rock, Classical then just the albums in their own folder eg. Andre Previn with Joe Pass & Ray Brown - After Hours
I think this is what PeterSt has suggested... one click away (two if you count the hardrive selection).  I don't think it really matters... long as you're patient, but you'll have to click into your artist folder to see the album pictures.  If you keep it one level, you'll click on your HD and see album pics of all your stuff... why I'm pulling all my album folders out of the Artist folders... thank goodness I was redundant with the artist names.
whew... hard to do it right the first time... is there a right though? whatever floats your boat, but I'm trying to take PeterSt advice... most the time. eheh gl
572  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: Most convenient Storage Structure ? on: August 01, 2007, 11:04:21 am
Ok I think I've got it figured out... hehe ya right
In EAC > EAC Options > File Name (tab) I had "Use Various Artist Naming Scheme" checked/selected.(that's what was forcing the subfolder "Various"  I unchecked that and am changing my "Naming Scheme" for Various Artists albums to:
%N - %A - %Y - %C - %T

Normally (for non-Various Artists albums)I have it as:
%A - %Y - %C - %N - %T
(eg. Bebo Valdés & Diego El Cigala - 2003 - Lágrimas Negras - 01 - Inolvidable)
(it number orders fine in XXHE because artist - Year - CD title stay the same... so orders by first difference, number, normally.  For various artists I've changed it so the number comes first since Artist changes for every track and XXHE then plays songs out of order)
So for Various Artist eg.
Under Foobar using the cue then I get: (just for reference to cue... i don't listen to foobar anymore)
01. Various Artists - [Bona Fide Bluegrass & Mountain Music #01] The Big Rock Candy Mountains // Harry McClintock

Under XXHE I get:
01 - Harry McClintock -  - Bona Fide Bluegrass & Mountain Music - The Big Rock Candy Mountains

(year isn't in there cause I didn't list it in EAC, each song is from a different year :/ , that's why the  - - ... should probably take that out of naming scheme for those type of albums... here we go again)

should I have "Replace spaces by underscores" checked in Filename tab of EAC?  That doesn't matter does it?  I have it unchecked.  hehe I've only started in on the reripping of the "Folk" part of my collection, so stop me before I go too far if you see something wrong... and ya thank goodness for being able to xcopy my dir structure and using cue files and daemon tools instead of going back to my cds.
573  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: Most convenient Storage Structure ? on: August 01, 2007, 09:21:49 am
How about for an album with Various Artists
So, I create a folder for the ripped CD . Then,
EAC using freedb info, wants to create a sub-folder called Various in my created folder and put all the wav files in that.
I have my folder named(example):
"Various - Bona Fide Bluegrass & Mountain Music"
that I create.  Then eac using freedb info creates another folder called
Various in "Various - Bona Fide Bluegrass & Mountain Music"
and puts all the wav files in there... (sigh, I guess this is just a concern because I use cue files and the cue file is outside the
Various folder in "Various - Bona Fide Bluegrass & Mountain Music"
and points to the Various folder.  If I want to drag all those wav files to the folder called
"Various - Bona Fide Bluegrass & Mountain Music"
I'll need to manually edit the cue file... if I care to have it valid.
I'm going to guess that you (would) pull all the wav files out of the subdirectory called Various that EAC/freedb creates and pull them up to the "Various - Bona Fide Bluegrass & Mountain Music"
that you've created for the album. ? and just delete the subfolder Various.
How do you, PeterSt, have various artist albums listed in your wav files.
574  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: Most convenient Storage Structure ? on: July 31, 2007, 04:37:10 am
This is what I had been doing
With EAC I had ripped doing this, %A - %Y - %C - %N - %T , for file name construction:
Artist - Year - Cd title - track Number - Track title

!PeterSt suggests!
If I've read what you've written above, you suggest just, %N - %T
track Number - Track title

and to put these in a folder called, Artist - CD Title

Just checking.  Is this still your recomendation for ripping CDs.


Actually, I don't think it would hurt to add the year in the folder name...(what do you think?)
Artist - CD Title - Year

Anyway, I'm thinking about reripping my single album cue/wav files into multi song wav/cue using Daemon tools cd emulator software... takes about 30 seconds... i knew cue files were good for something. (load cue file into daemon tools > EAC > Create Cue Sheet - current gap settings > Copy selected tracks Uncompressed...30 seconds later i have another rip of my files, takes longer to name the folder :/ )... I'd start collecting cue files for your collection, may make it easier at some point.

yea again... I won't have to rewrite my directory structure.  just remembered xcopy and looked up switches  from msdos (command prompt):
xcopy /t /e e:\ g:\
copied my jazz directory (& sub directory) from Hardrive e: to HD g: without copying files in those dir. yea again... going to save a ton of time

575  Ultimate Audio Playback / Your thoughts about the Sound Quality / Re: Gapless...it works (v0.9h)! on: July 30, 2007, 09:22:04 pm
yea possible SQ improvement? I'll give this version a try too then.  Make sure to go back and listen against version D yourself too.
576  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Exact Audio Copy and its CUE Splitter question on: July 29, 2007, 08:08:35 pm
I've ripped my CDs using EAC and the IMG button on the left hand side of EAC.  This rips the cd into one big single wav file and a cue file that holds all the title, timings...

Because XXHE is more geared toward individual song wav files, I've begun using EACs CUE splitter.  This splits the big single wav into individual song wavs (and also creates a new cue file for them; my backups are still single wav/cue files until I'm sure what I'm doing).

To use this CUE splitter option:
EAC > Tools (tab at top of eac) > Spilt WAV By CUE Sheet > (and then several options) With Gaps; With Gaps Corrected; Leave Out Gaps; Individual Indices

I've never worried about what GAPS really were because it was all done with a single button push...

My main question is - What option should I use?  So far I've assummed "With Gaps".  What do you think?

Also, Do you think this is giving me the same files as I would get ripping the CD using: Copy Selected Tracks > Uncompressed   ??
577  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Question About Process Priority on: July 29, 2007, 12:14:12 pm
Because you know what the ratio of player to thread priority to be, maybe you should have them combined to a single option that has various levels of priority to choose from?  Just brainstorming here.
578  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: Support for single WAV file and its CUE file pls on: July 29, 2007, 07:35:37 am
Well, I'll admit at this point when I get new discs I've started ripping them into multi song wavs ... but still with a cue file heh.  I'm still using ver D ( ver f for diacritically marked discs...);  I haven't had a need or listened to ver G yet, eh, plus you're probably on the verge of a new version anyway.
thanks, Dave
579  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: Support for single WAV file and its CUE file pls on: July 27, 2007, 07:10:40 am

and I hope I don't come off as a pest.  PeterSt has already said he will work on cue file support so that isn't what this post is about.
PeterSt, wouldn't a cue file plus a single wav file per CD take care of the Diacritical Marks problem (a MS Vista problem as I see it; won't they fix that?) and the Gapless playback conundrum?  Should you maybe encourage people to go this route?

The Diacritical Marks could all be listed written within the cue file and the actual wav and cue file could be named without diacritical marks in them.  Gapless playback would not be a problem because the gap info would be in the cue file. tada!!

If you've already ripped a lot of CDs you can easily create a cue file for these single song wav files by either:
a)  Putting your CD back in EAC and going into Action > Create CUE Sheet (not reripping the CD; just creating a cue sheet for your wav files)
b)  Using a CUE sheet creator program such as CDRCUE (drag your wav files into it and it creates a cue file for you)

If you want to make your multi-wav  into a single wav of the whole CD,
then load the cue file you just created from the multi-wav into Daemon Tools (a software cd emulator) and rip (very fast rip because they are wav files on HD) with EAC by just pushing the IMG button on the left side of EAC

I know you are after the highest fidelity playback PeterSt, I hope you mainly work on this player for your own use and drag us all along to copy your Front End and file format.  I'm willing to do whatever you choose our front ends to be... just thought that perhaps cue/wav files may be the simplest way to get there.... idk
580  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Why I use a laptop and how on: July 24, 2007, 02:38:25 am
I just sent this message off to an audiophool and thought it might be worthwhile to post here if someone is looking to put together a computer for XXHE.  Here are some reasons I picked up a laptop.

***The computer I'm running XXHE on is a Laptop with a Pentium 1.73 GHz cpu.  Right before doing a clean install of Vista Premium OEM full version (picked it up at Frys for ~$100 US) I upped the ram from 512 k to 2000 k.  I usually build my own comps, but I bought the laptop because it's quiet and can run on battery (not really a big deal).  Another good thing I think is it uses a touchpad for moving the curser and built in keyboard; means only 1 thing, my Stello USB-DAC, is plugged into usb port.  My Hard Drives are all daisy-chained using Firewire 400.  Only program I loaded on there is XXHE and shut off a few things (no software firewall, defender, computer sounds...), so I don't load the laptop down much... it's working without any hickups; I didn't run into any problems at all. Very easy install.  Oh, fwiw, I also didn't install any drivers for the onboard soundcard... so computer doesn't see it. [shrug].  If you have any other questions give me a holler.  Love to hear about your dac project, and your experience with XXHE.  As I've mentioned, I'm ecstatic with it; finally feel I've reached what I thought a computer front end should do. I had to use an asio wrapper with foobar (tried both asio4all and asio2k; used asio2k), maybe one reason I had such good success with XXHE (no need for asio). (I was for sure getting around kmixer before with foobar/WinXp). ***  oh, I think this can avoid some problems too about admin stuff... when I load an OS (Vista) on I never enter a password when it asks me to create one... that way I always boot right into the os and don't have to log on as a user.... one less button to push... [shrug again] no big deal.

581  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: Allow Me To Introduce Myself on: July 22, 2007, 10:41:06 am
I've been looking for a picture of my system but I can only find this that I took when I installed a screen and projector.... Let me be clear, heh, this is a music room first.  Only reason I installed anything vid is because the screen rolls up and out of the soundstage when playing music.  This shows a speaker and its amp.  I'll either find my better pics of my system or take more (for insurance anyhoo) and add to here.  I like seeing pics of peps systems too; I'm still drooling over that piano black speaker posted by someone from austrailia ... i think?

click just right of the pic to enlarge

I'm sorry I didn't post this whole thread in the Chatter forum; now that I've found my way around I'll post things in their right spots.  Any way to move it?  gnite
582  Ultimate Audio Playback / Chatter and forum related stuff / Re: An introduction and questions. on: July 22, 2007, 05:37:31 am
Hi twystd
Just started browsing this part of the forum and saw your post.  I just recently set up XXHighEnd version d on a new install of Vista premium 32 bit.  I learned about XXHE from Audio Asylum also; I can't believe how some of those guys got their panties in a bunch.  I've enthused about XXHE in several other places on this forum; give a search.  All I can say is this is the best player sound quality wise I've come across by a large margin; so much so it's hard for me to believe.  I'm going to bring this back sometime to AA, but I'm giving myself more listening time with it so that I can approach AA in a good way.  I thought I was the only one who called himself an audiophool, hehe.
583  Ultimate Audio Playback / Interesting Music / Testmaterial / Re: For the Love of Ella on: July 22, 2007, 01:02:50 am
Hehe ... never knew this was about music. As you might expect ... "our" PC's have all sounds from these sources disabled ... like yours. yes
doh.. didn't think of that.  I post from a different (everyday use) computer than my front end computer.  On the FE comp I even disable network stuff ... (which with your player probably isn't necessary) hehe silly me.
584  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Glitches on my Dell (Not XX related) on: July 21, 2007, 09:10:03 pm
Hi Peter

I'm back from my hols and ready to get stuck in again. Grin

My replacement Dell computer was sitting on my doorstep. Have installed all softwares and drivers and am ready to give it a full test drive.

BUT, my activation code was for my other PC which is dead as dead can be. I have tried the code on the new PC but I guess I wouldn't have expected it to work.

What do I do now? dntknw dntknw

Thanks Chris

Hi Chris
If I understood correctly when reading about retaining activation....
Once you have activated XXHighEnd, you should then save the entire XXHighEnd program to another place and retain it.
If your machine/HardDrives crash or break, you then pull out your saved copied of XXHighEnd that was undemoed and start with it, then copy the lastest version (or the version you want to use) directly over your now installed XXHighEnd folder that was undemoed.  Do I understand this right?  (paranoia strikes deep for me, so I've got my original undemoed XXHighEnd saved on two different HardDrives and a cdr hehehe)  I don't think it matters what machine you pull it to.  I activated XXHighEnd on my Front End and then copied the whole XXHighEnd folder to another completely different machine in the house and it works on both. 
Do you have your original XXHighEnd undemoed player somewhere else (cdr/another HD)?  Peter, does entering in your activation code again in a new demo version of XXHighEnd work?
585  Ultimate Audio Playback / Interesting Music / Testmaterial / Re: For the Love of Ella on: July 21, 2007, 08:40:29 pm
Btw, why these references to IMHO unrelated youtube stuff ?
Also, please keep in mind that this board is less for "interesting music" as such, and more for indicating problems with XX, or where it excels (and upload a piece of track). But I guess your nice posts make me forget that ...  Happy


Hi Peter
They're your boards, I'll follow your lead.  The extra music links are just that, something to click on after reading a post.  Maybe something others might like to listen to or get exposed to(it's all about music).  If you think they're confusing or muddying up the boards I'll stop.  Again, Thanks for your efforts in getting the music bits off my machine in the correct way.  Dave
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