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346  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Hi Peter on: August 28, 2008, 04:04:59 am
xx crushes direct at start with  a message that the folder doesn't exist

But can I ask what means "crashes" in this case ? When there's a message there's no crash.
Also, I think if you clear the Playlist Area after this message, the problem has gone. True ? Untrue ?

It is true that Russ told me this, but I can't invoke a real error, apart from a normal one, which then can be avoided (press CLEAR).
Btw, I don't think you would want me to remove those tracks from the Playlist that are not there anymore. You wouldn't understand ...

?


PS: If I am right about the CLEAR and all helping, I could make the message (which now is a system message really) more clear, including a hint what to do (or make the non-existing tracks highlighted, leaving you to right-click and Delete from Playlist). But I sense that you mean something different. Russ ?

I'm recalling a time on the laptop when it happened.  The message would pop up saying it couldn't find the ?file; when I clicked ok to clear the message, XXHE would close too.  Not given a chance to clear playlist.
347  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Hi Peter on: August 25, 2008, 07:19:17 pm
Hi Peter,
it was that simple thanks. I discovered another bug, wich is no prob for me but I like to help improving so I report. When I load files in the playlist and move the files afterwards into another folder, xx crushes direct at start with  a message that the folder doesn't exist.
Ya I've had this too.  I either have to move the folder back to the original place or "reinstal" XXHE and choose to redo settings.  Now I always remember to "clear" XXHE playlist before moving files.

I have mentioned this to Peter also. In the interim, you can get around the bug by deleting the "!CurrentlyPlaying.PLXX" file ( normally in your install directory) and restarting XXHE. No need to 'reinstall' everything.

Cheers,

Russ

Doh! should have looked for something like this before.  I'm too "got a problem... format!"
348  Ultimate Audio Playback / XXHighEnd Support / Re: Hi Peter on: August 25, 2008, 05:31:21 pm
Hi Peter,
it was that simple thanks. I discovered another bug, wich is no prob for me but I like to help improving so I report. When I load files in the playlist and move the files afterwards into another folder, xx crushes direct at start with  a message that the folder doesn't exist.
Ya I've had this too.  I either have to move the folder back to the original place or "reinstal" XXHE and choose to redo settings.  Now I always remember to "clear" XXHE playlist before moving files.
349  Ultimate Audio Playback / Playback Tweaks and Source related subjects / Re: How I tweaked my Vista virtually dead on: August 21, 2008, 04:33:08 am
tada.... guess what I just got done setting up thanks to this thread.  I've got a few more hours of no music as I move and setup the equipment, but the new computer is ready now.
350  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / fitting a 2.5" SSD into a 3.5" bay on: August 17, 2008, 04:53:18 am
ok I found this.  I think I'm going to do it this way.
Ok this is what I'm going to do about the 2.5 going into a 3.5
http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11674

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018N0D9G/ref=cm_sp_item
351  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: Happy with this setup on: August 17, 2008, 02:55:48 am
Slowly opening boxes and reading.  I installed the PowerSupply in this huge aluminum case I bought (stuffed a couple pieces of sorbathan where metal meets)... best case I've ever gotten.  I like how it will be easy to work in; aluminum makes it light.... looks nice with the brushed finish (but it's going in the closet so...).

The case is cool, but I can tell it's out of date in that it has no provision (prolly none do?) for 2.5" drives.  Have you thought of a cool way to mount your 2.5" SSD in a 3.5" bay?  I'm kinda thinking thick rubber bands to suspend it... but I'm still thinking.  Maybe zip-ties and sorbathan (the duck tape of the audio world).  I would think though, that there would be some type of bay I could buy that fits into a 3.5 bay and gives support to a 2.5" drive ... hmm
352  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: Happy with this setup on: August 14, 2008, 03:51:29 am

Nah, we don't need floppy's. And see the IDE remark, thinking of the combination with the DVD drive (which is IDE ?).

So you linked to a FireWire card without reviews, right ? hahaha. But this one seems to have 800 ports only ... they do NOT connect to 400 ports without a conversion cable. -> not advised.
Maybe never mind the reviews. They are not about SQ anyway. If it's about lacking speed : not important ... you'll have enough of it (as long as you don't connect the hdd's to it.
I don't think I'll even be using the one IDE.  The DVD drive is sata (are IDE drives better for ripping? My old Plextor was IDE... it was a good drive I think), and I'll forgo the floppy.

Do you think I'll have any firewire conflicts if I hook up the FF800 to a FW800 pci card, And hook up the HDDs of music to a FW400 port on the MB?  or will just have to see... hope I don't have to use usb for the HDDs.
353  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Ordering this Setup... on: August 13, 2008, 11:15:37 am
I think,
Take a finale (or close to finale I hope) look everyone.

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289
(ok, I have to admit, I bought 2 of these for a total of 8 GB of ram... maybe someday Peter will use all of it? heh prolly not)

LITE-ON Black 20X DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106265

GIGABYTE GZ-FA2CA-AJS Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811233025

ASUS P5Q LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131295

ZOTAC ZT-88TES3P-FCP GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500006
(whatever... it shuts off after a minute and sounds better when it does... either that or I just like listening in a dark room)

ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ800 800W ATX12V / EPS12V Patent Piperock Modular Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817814014
doh or now prolly this
Silencer 750 Quad (Blue)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703019
EDIT 10/31/08
I built my daughter basically the same machine as mine for her room (gaming/music... ect), so in the interest of experimentation I bought the ABS Tagan BZ for her machine, and swapped out the Silencer 750 in my music machine.  sigh, I could hear no difference, but this is not an easy back and forth swap. I had both outside the case and just switched inner cables 5 times over 2 evenings.  I ended up putting the ABS in the music machine... reasoning? It is a modular design and has less cables running around in the case when put in the computer... dunno if there is a difference really, because too hard to do long term back and forth.  I can switch back later to the Silencer if need be. !!! The silencer is more quiet than the ABS fan wise, if that makes a difference to you, but my computer is in a closet outside the music room !!!

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036

edit
Cooljag OAK-H Active PWM Fan CPU Cooler
http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/cooljag-oak-h-active-pwm-fan-cpu-cooler.html
and arctic5
Had to go with the Cooljag instead of the Zalman, the Zalman didn't fit the Asus board.
Zalman CNPS9500A LED CPU Cooler
http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/zalman-cnps9500a-led-cpu-cooler.html

OCZ Core Series OCZSSD2-1C128G 2.5" 128GB SATA II Internal Solid state disk (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227345
&
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811993005
to mount

Koutech 3-Port FireWire/1394b PCI/PCI-X Host Controller Model
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815201021

Unibrain Firewire Cable 1m 9pin to 9pin
http://www.unibrain.com/products/p1394/cables_b.htm
354  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: Happy with this setup on: August 09, 2008, 07:07:32 am
The mobo port for the HDDs and the card for the FF.

The reviews for that card are not the best ... (just on that page you linked to).
I know... I just saw that.  I picked it blindly late the other night on the basis of the chip.  I think they're saying the pci-e slot/WindowsXP? isn't up for FW900...guesses... So maybe it will work with Vista or in regular pci slot... I'll read the reviews on other cards.

edit
Well I see that RME has faith their product sounds just fine when using their 4 m of FF400 cable....

i think I'll find a slightly shorter cable...

Finally found a cheap video coax cable that will have to do for the digital signal.  What digital cable are you all using to get to your dac?


HAHAHA I think this is the first time I'm doing a tweak where the only thing I care about is not going back in SQ... If I stay at the SQ I have, but am able to add XXHighEnd volume control to my setup I'll be stoked.  Right now I have to adjust 4 vol knobs (xover as preamp) to change the volume. ugh

edit 8/10

Playing with family last couple days and finally felt I had time to hook up the FF800 today.  It's working.  I'm having to use a cheap yellow-plug video cable for the coax dig cable for now...I haven't figured much out in the settings... I did a "DAC TEST" in XXHE and it supports everything except 24 bit stuff ... even 384?  I set it at 384 and it played back a 16/44.1. I think I remember a comment explaining how the RME isn't .... oh wellz for now I put "DAC IS" 32/96 ... because with coax in, that's what I think the Stello is... but why it plays with higher? So when I do "DAC TEST" ... I'm not seeing the Stello any more... I'm seeing RME FF800... ok.
I played a 24/96 wav file...could it be converting to 16/44.1 inside the FF800 before the Stello, or is the Stello truly reading a 24/96 signal.  (just thinking out loud)
355  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: Happy with this setup on: August 09, 2008, 06:03:49 am
Well things are coming along.  Check my list out I made earlier in this thread to see where I am on building this box.
I just picked up the Fireface 800 tonight and thought of a question/concern.  I have my music on external harddrives that are FW 800 capable.  The new computer I'm building will come with one FW 400 input.  I'm buying a card  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124050 that has 3 FW 800 ports.
My question is: should I use this card for both the FF800 and my HDDs of music; should I use this card for the FF800 and use the 400 port built into the motherboard for the HDDs of music; should I get two FW 800 cards and use one for the FF800 and one for the HDDs (this last overkill way is the way I would probably go - hehe)
356  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Building this setup on: August 07, 2008, 12:27:24 pm
Ok, tomorrow I'll look into building something around this processor and possibly this MB.
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036
&
ASUS P5Q LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131295

I should get a pci or pci-express firewire card? Which of these types should I look for?
SYBA PCI-Express 1394b FireWire Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124050
or
SYBA PCI 32-bit Firewire 1394b Controller Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124026
357  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Building this setup on: August 07, 2008, 09:31:06 am
Changed out the cpu for
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor

Is an equivalent Intel worth considering? or should I stick with amd?

Peter,
I hope you ment 2 X 1MB L2 ... I couldn't find a 2 X 2MB hehe thanks

About the 2 GB of Ram limit ... :/ ... but youi're going to find a way around that,,, right?
358  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Building this setup on: August 07, 2008, 05:40:14 am
{{{[[[ Final Revision later in Thread ]]]}}}

Here's what I'm considering right now for a front end... but I'll edit this page until I finally order.  Feel free to critique.

Vista 64 bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488

@ least 8GB ram

"soundcard" will be Fireface 800
http://www.amazon.com/RME-Fireface-800-Recording-Interface/dp/B0006UGF7G/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=musical-instruments&qid=1218077615&sr=8-1]Amazon.com: RME Fireface 800 FireWire Computer Recording Interface: Musical Instruments
or, the Juli@ soundcard from ESI (If I was on a budget at all, this is the card I'd choose without thought)
http://www.esi-audio.com/products/julia/
,and a Stello DAC I have that will take in a coax digital signal and output two analog rca signals.  http://www.hifi500.com/product/da100.htm
[I just picked up an RME-Fireface 800 from a local dealer, better than I can find on the net.... just thought it was my safest bet,,, although the juli@ prolly would have been the conservative alright way to go, I can afford the FF 800]

CPU should be dual core only for this program.

Here's where I've started but I'll update as I change my mind.

motherboard
ASUS P5Q LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131295

cpu

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036



Solid State HD for OS and gallery function of XXHE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227345]Newegg.com - OCZ Core Series OCZSSD2-1C128G 2.5" 128GB SATA II Internal Solid state disk (SSD) - Solid State Disks
there's reasons I need this speed and no moving parts ...really.  It's been hard figuring out what's good in this department.  Something about SLC vs MLC memory... not sure what the OCZ core HD uses... decent specs and new!!  Except this is a scary read about vista and SSD
http://www.betanews.com/article/SanDisk_wont_specify_Vista_SSD_problems_but_is_working_with_Microsoft/1216851132

Memory
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

Power Supply
ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ800 800W ATX12V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817814014
I like the moduality of the cables... can't find one like it with lower wattage....so

Case... gotta be a much better one than this ....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119077]Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases

Will use a firewire card rather than take it from the MB.  Both of these have Texas Ins. chips.

SYBA PCI-Express 1394b FireWire Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124050
or
SYBA PCI 32-bit Firewire 1394b Controller Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124026

Welp, that's it for now.
359  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: Happy with this setup on: August 01, 2008, 12:42:18 am
Careful there, because SPDIF really *can* get too long (grey sound). Your best option would be to have an external FireWire soundcard, but my 10 meters (33 ft) I used at sometime degraded sound as well (less snappy, and again more greyish -> highly dependent on the FireWrire output of the PC as far as I can tell).

What about moving the speakers and all to the toilet ? heat
Hehe

anyway
Ya, getting the digital signal outta the box ... easier said than done.  Putting the box in the closet means I have to run between 9 ft of something (somewhat inconvenient) to 15 feet max (very convenient) to the Stello DAC.  I know I've heard differences in just different spdif coax wire ... :/   So having a long run is prolly not going to sound good... So, ya, I'd like to also break away from usb (cables/ usb ports/ interrupts make a difference yikes); which leaves firewire (which you've heard differences with...) but ya, firewire,,,,
I'd really like to do something this summer with the computer...(not the dac), so I'm hoping it's an ok time ... at least last a year haha.

edit
also, once I do convert to spdif I'd like to have short enough of a run that I can use coax... which I used to prefer over optical. (wish I hadn't given away that fantastic coax dig cable I had :/... will have to buy another now)... but what are people doing now?; using optical? to break the electrical tween the computer and dac? Maybe that's better now.

edit 2
I opened my mind a bit and remembered that since I'll be able to do volume mostly from XXHE, that I could put not only the computer/HDDs in this big closet (separated by a wall from music room), but also my Stello DAC and my Pass Labs xover/pre-amp ... I run long lengths of transparent ref interconnect anyway, so these would pass through small holes in the wall to reach the music room/amplifiers.
So now...
I have the DAC next to the computer..... external firewire something (oh I don't know...like this http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_fireface_800.php) , or an internal soundcard like ....RME 9632  http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_hdsp_9632.php

hmm the 9632 only has optical dig out the 800 has coax...
edit
is the above statement correct, or does this card offer coax out too. anyone know?
edit
i found it
1 Breakout cable for coaxial SPDIF*
so this card does send coax rca out to... hmmm
360  Ultimate Audio Playback / Music Storage and convenient playback / Re: Happy with this setup on: August 01, 2008, 12:16:10 am
Me too. It can only - and will often - disturb playback; very many interrupts it creates.

Keyboard and mouse are connected by rather normal PS/2 cable, and the display by means of a 15m/45' very decent shielded VGA cable with gold plated connectors. Works flawlessly.
This is what I'm hoping to do this summer.  Build a box (computer)  that stays in a closet (opposite wall of music room), drill a hole in the wall and run ps/2 cable for keyboard and mouse/hdmi or vga for video (any reason why I'd want to run vga over using hdmi?).  The external firewire HDDs will be in the closet with the box.  Now I just need to figure out the best way now to get a spdif signal to the Stello....
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